@drgnslayr said in Darryn Peterson:

@BeddieKU23 said in Darryn Peterson:

Do you think the way defenses are guarding Peterson these days has an influence on the shots he's getting lately. Seems like every team is throwing 2-3 guys his way and he's not getting open looks.

Of course, this makes it even worse!

But they throw this at him because he just stands on the side on the 3-pt line, awaiting a pass. If he would run laterally, across the defense, running all kinds of fakes and direction changes, it would create a huge mess if teams think they can keep two guys on him. If that happens, DP is then making natural forming screens for other players.

The predictable thing for him to do would have us set a high ball screen for him. That can work sometimes... but wouldn't count on that always working.

Tre would be great at this. He stands around on the 3-pt line... he could cut right down into the paint, while DP runs in from the other side. One of these guys is going to then pop open on the other side on the 3-pt line.

My point is we need to at least attempt to run offense. We seem to just quit running schemes over a month ago, and hence, our record shows it!

Record with DP playing is 14-8; without him its 9-2. Only two losses to Duke and UConn. Efficiency ratings and other advanced metrics show we have been a better team when DP is not playing or not on the court. Worst offensive games have been with DP playing.

That's not all on DP, although it isn't clear he makes his teammates better. It seems to be primarily scheme or coaching. When DP isn't playing, there is no go-to guy - the ball moves better, Council goes downhill more, and more set plays to get Flory lobs. Many more assists. With DP, everyone waits for him to make plays and the energy level dissipates on both sides of the ball.

His usage rate is ridiculously high. With defenses scheming to shut him down with double-teaming, you would think that with a couple of passes out of double team, we should be getting wide open looks from the arc or finishes in the paint. Not happening...

@Tallturd1 said in Kansas Jayhawks @ NC State Wolfpack Game Chat Sat. 12/13 4:30 CT:

@BeddieKU23

We have the 5th toughest schedule overall and the 6th toughest non conference schedule. Our resume rating is based on what chances out of 100 would the 25th ranked team have of matching our current record. They would have a 15% chance of matching our 8-3 record. We have played 6 games against a top 50 ranked team and are 3/3.

We actually have the 2nd toughest schedule per Kenpom of the top 100+ teams (Alabama only one higher). 8 of our 11 games have been against high major opponents. Not sure anyone can match that. Our 3 losses have been against the #3, 5, and 12 teams with a combined record of 29-2. Two of those without our top PPG scorer.

Yes, we haven't demonstrated that we can beat the very top teams, but we can at least hang with them and beat anyone else.

But there is a small margin for error. We need someone to step up every game...

@BeddieKU23 said in Kansas Jayhawks vs Iowa State Cyclones Game Chat Sat. 1/13 8:00 CT:

Espn sucks

Delaying game for fake golf post game?????

Why can't we play with this effort and ball movement every game??????

White and Council with double-doubles...

We may have the most offensive offense in college ball …

Solid win by Houston yesterday and remarkable comeback by TTU against Duke. Although not close to the non-conference record the SEC demonstrated last year, the B12 solidified its position (again) at the top of the conference rankings - best win-loss record against other power conferences and against ranked opponents. Impressive collection of high quality wins, including giving Duke, UConn and Purdue their only losses.

We play like this and we’ll lose by 30 to SJU…

So, HCBS is already tightening his bench. It's a game he clearly wants, and only two subs thus far.

This is awesome, but we are still giving up WAY too many ORBs....

Give up 5 straight points off of 2 more ORBs...

A rare thing - our bench has outscored theirs - 13-0...

Really balanced scoring - and making FTs...

Now Flory also has a double-double...

Without DP and just 3-14 from Melvin and Tre, pretty amazing we have 42pts and down just 3...

The basic problem is that DP, for all his obvious talent, isn't making his teammates better. The offense isn't fluid and the ball doesn't move quickly when he is on the court. The others appear to be deferring to him. When he is on, like the first half of the BYU game, it doesn't matter that much, because he is capable of carrying the offense. But when he isn't, as in the Cincy game, the offense completely bogs down. We scored 82 against the Wildcats without DP. Just 68 against a .500 team with him playing 30+ minutes. If his shots aren't falling then I would argue he has a negative impact - high usage but very low assist ratio. He and Tiller are the only two players with more TOs than assists.

At this point, he would ideally be in a Remy-like off-the-bench role. Let the others get into the flow and come in to generate instant offense off the bench esp. given the paucity of bench scoring. Obviously that isn't going to happen with a projected #1 (or 3 or 5) pick...

While HCBS indicated that he hasn't made any decision - and the decision will certainly be his to make - the question is whether it is in the best interests of KU basketball going forward for there to be a change (putting aside who might replace him)? Let me note that I have been and am a fan. I was also a fan of Williams, but Self eclipsed him in the KU pantheon. Indeed, I think that whenever he hangs it up, he will be considered one of of the top 10-15 college coaches all-time given two Natties, 14 consecutive conference titles, consecutive 20 win seasons, and overall tournament record.

Whether it is coaching style/scheme, talent assessment, and/or player development in the NIL era, it is objectively the case that KU is no longer the national, or even conference, powerhouse that characterized most of Self's tenure. The past three years have been especially painful. No conference titles (actually, tie for 6th, 6th and tie for 3rd). No conference tournament titles. Double digit losses each season. Exactly two wins in the NCAA - against #13 seeds Samford and Cal Baptist. Offensive efficiency metrics in the 50s nationally. Multiple blowout (+20pt) losses. Multiple losses at AFH each season. And its not just the past three seasons. Putting aside the championship year (a really good team with multiple NBA players, but one that also benefited from a relatively easy path to the title (seedwise), the only other NCAA tournament wins since 2018 were against #13, #14, and #16 seeds. Just one conference tournament title since 2018. During that time, Houston, AU, ISU and TTU have had more conference and NCAA tournament success.

Those are objective facts. Then there are the subjective observations - lousy team chemistry (at least during the Dickinson years), poor roster construction, seemingly favoring less talented players (Juan as the starting PG for a decade?), running the same sets again and again, switching every thing allowing opponents to dictate mismatches, lack of bench production (are there really 200+ other teams that have better bench players than KU), shortening rotations early in year and not allowing new/younger players to play through mistakes...And, so on...

Is there any reason that we should expect or hope for anything different next year or the year after that???

Enough of Tiller - weakest 6’10’ guy in college ball…

Zero points and just 3 RBs from our bigs...

This isn’t on the refs…