@Tallturd1 said in Kansas Jayhawks @ NC State Wolfpack Game Chat Sat. 12/13 4:30 CT:

@BeddieKU23

We have the 5th toughest schedule overall and the 6th toughest non conference schedule. Our resume rating is based on what chances out of 100 would the 25th ranked team have of matching our current record. They would have a 15% chance of matching our 8-3 record. We have played 6 games against a top 50 ranked team and are 3/3.

We actually have the 2nd toughest schedule per Kenpom of the top 100+ teams (Alabama only one higher). 8 of our 11 games have been against high major opponents. Not sure anyone can match that. Our 3 losses have been against the #3, 5, and 12 teams with a combined record of 29-2. Two of those without our top PPG scorer.

Yes, we haven't demonstrated that we can beat the very top teams, but we can at least hang with them and beat anyone else.

But there is a small margin for error. We need someone to step up every game...

Solid win by Houston yesterday and remarkable comeback by TTU against Duke. Although not close to the non-conference record the SEC demonstrated last year, the B12 solidified its position (again) at the top of the conference rankings - best win-loss record against other power conferences and against ranked opponents. Impressive collection of high quality wins, including giving Duke, UConn and Purdue their only losses.

Zero points and just 3 RBs from our bigs...

Defense has been really good. Offense better in 2d half, but still not very efficient. Real issue is only 1 pt from the bench...

Elmarko's decision-making is not the best...

@crimsonblu22 said in Kansas Jayhawks vs Missouri Tigers Game Chat 12/7 12:00 CT:

@DCHawker what's Tre?

So, yes, he is over 40%. So is DP (small sample). As a team we are at 33%. As HSBC has noted, we really need to be around 35-37%.

What a weird effing game.............

@BeddieKU23 I would add bench production as another concern. A LOT more bench minutes than would be the case against a better opponent or in a closer game but shooting was awful - 4 for 19; 1 for 11 from 3.

All five starters in double figures...

Elmarko just doesn't have the requisite bball IQ...

said in Kansas Jayhawks at West Virginia Mountaineers ️ Game Chat Sat. 1/10 11:00CT:

Reality check time. We have now lost road games to two middle of the pack (or lower) B12 teams, and needed a miracle to beat a middle of the pack team at home. Before today, WVU had just two wins against P5 teams - 7-8 Pitt and a 2 pt home win against 8-7 Cincy. After beating us, UCF promptly lost to Okie State. At this point, it's not clear that we have beaten anyone who is assured of making the tournament. Best win is against 11-5 Tennessee, which got spanked today and is also 1-2 in conference.

It seems now painfully obvious that we simply don't have the talent of the top tier of B12 teams. DP is an NBA talent, but he doesn't make his teammates better, or at least hasn't yet. I don't think there is anyone else who is likely to be drafted, including Flory. It's another mediocre portal haul. White and Council are solid role players and likable guys, but they aren't difference makers. White was a 10ppg scorer with Illinois, and that's really who he is. Council was a 14ppg scorer at St. Bonaventure against lesser competition. Same with Dawson. Tiller has skill and may have upside potential, but he plays soft and disappears. 4 pts in 14 minutes today and 4 fouls. Unfortunately, Jackson is a bust as a 5* recruit.

Good teams simply don't allow middling teams to go on 16-0 / 22-2 runs. The question at this point is whether there is anyone we will beat on the road. If not, we are looking at a losing conference record, 'cause I don't think we will win every game at Allen. A 20 win season may be at risk...

Add this from CBSSports:

But after dropping to 11-5 overall, it's hard to keep Kansas in the top shelf of the Big 12 behemoths, largely because its best player is still not 100% and this defense has been shredded by UCF, TCU and now West Virginia. WVU's offense posted a sizzling 1.28 points per possession, easily the best it's ever managed against a high-major team this season.

Pittsburgh: 1.12 points per possession
Clemson: 1.01
Xavier: 1.00
Wake Forest: 1.08
Ohio State: 1.06
Iowa State: 0.97
Cincinnati: 0.97
Kansas: 1.29

It's not as if Kansas has bad defensive personnel, either. Melvin Council is an excellent point-of-attack defender. Tre White and Peterson have excellent positional size on the perimeter. Flory Bidunga is a fearsome rim protector, and Bryson Tiller is big and rangy. But Kansas' connection on the defensive end is sputtering. A sign of a locked-in defense is its ability to limit 3-point attempts for the best shooter on the scouting report. Kansas had no answer for Huff (4-11 from downtown), and that came four days after TCU's Liutauras Lelevicius drilled five triples himself.

WVU is, charitably, not a good offensive team and we gave up 46 points in the 2nd half and 1.29 points per possession for the game. Stunning...

Compare to the the (now) top tier B12 teams: Houston has won 16 straight road games - crushed Baylor in Waco today. Arizona easily beat TCU in Ft. Worth. TTU up by 21 early in the 2nd half on the road against Colorado. ISU moved to 3-0.

Recruiting or scheme/coaching???

Reality check time. We have now lost road games to two middle of the pack (or lower) B12 teams, and needed a miracle to beat a middle of the pack team at home. Before today, WVU had just two wins against P5 teams - 7-8 Pitt and a 2 pt home win against 8-7 Cincy. After beating us, UCF promptly lost to Okie State. At this point, it's not clear that we have beaten anyone who is assured of making the tournament. Best win is against 11-5 Tennessee, which got spanked today and is also 1-2 in conference.

It seems now painfully obvious that we simply don't have the talent of the top tier of B12 teams. DP is an NBA talent, but he doesn't make his teammates better, or at least hasn't yet. I don't think there is anyone else who is likely to be drafted, including Flory. It's another mediocre portal haul. White and Council are solid role players and likable guys, but they aren't difference makers. White was a 10ppg scorer with Illinois, and that's really who he is. Council was a 14ppg scorer at St. Bonaventure against lesser competition. Same with Dawson. Tiller has skill and may have upside potential, but he plays soft and disappears. 4 pts in 14 minutes today and 4 fouls. Unfortunately, Jackson is a bust as a 5* recruit.

Good teams simply don't allow middling teams to go on 16-0 / 22-2 runs. The question at this point is whether there is anyone we will beat on the road. If not, we are looking at a losing conference record, 'cause I don't think we will win every game at Allen. A 20 win season may be at risk...

Great run but kiiler stat is TCU has 12 more shot attempts - mostly because of a 9-1 ORB advantage....

Getting killed on the glass. A 6'6' bench player for TCU has 5 boards - Flory and Tiller combined just 2...

We're shooting 67% and TCU 41% but we're behind - we have just 9 shot attempts, TCU 17....

@wissox83 Frankly, HCBS deserves to take some hits. His comments following the game were...curious...

He says DP was on a minutes restriction, even though he was supposedly 100% (wasn't going to play unless that was the case, as we were told...)? So, if really was going to be limited to 24 minutes, he plays 18 in the 1st half??? Okay, dictated by the Council and Flory foul situation? Then why start him in the 2nd half and ensure he wouldn't be available later in the game???

Then he says that Elmarko only played 11 minutes because he had a bum knee coming into the game. So, he plays at less than 100%, but not DP??? And, if Elmarko really was less than 100%, why not give some of the other guys a few minutes, i.e., Dawson? It's not like a 100% Elmarko is a difference maker...

It's possible that we are a second weekend team with a fully functioning and well integrated DP, but that hasn't really been demonstrated yet. We've lost to all the best teams we've played, even when DP has contributed. Our best win is over a 10-4 Tennessee team that may be a middle of the pack SEC team.

But with DP lighting it up in the 1st half, UCF still lead at half. Everyone else deferred to him. Council lit it up in the 2nd half, but we don't have anyone else who can consistently score - or at least create their own shot (Tre tried, but he really doesn't have the skill set - he is more of a good complementary player).

The only way this group beats the better teams is that DP plays, scores, but also makes his teammates better by creating opportunities for easy buckets when he is the focus of the defense. That isn't happening now...

That was pretty good ball movement...

I like to see Dawson getting some of the Jackson minutes...

In 24 minutes, Tiller has 2 FTs and 3 RBs...

Wonder what the points in the paint difference is....