Darryn Peterson
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@mayjay I have no qualms with your comments and am glad that the discovery of the reason for your wife’s symptoms was determined. Providers typically will tell patients what the most common side effects are, but don’t have the time to tell patients every possible symptom that may occur. I always advise my patients that if they have a new symptom after starting a new medicine to let me know and if it is a weekend to stop the medicine, but call us the next day the clinic is open to discuss it. Sometimes the side effect symptoms are temporary, but if too severe, then they should stop the medicine. Also, just because a symptom is not listed does not mean that it cannot be a side effect. Other medicines that a person already takes may interact with the metabolism of the new medicine making higher concentrations stay in the bloodstream. If I know a patient is sensitive to medicines in general, I typically start out with a lower dosage if possible and gradually increase as tolerated.
Dr Google and Reddit in the right hands can properly inform and confirm about similar experiences that other people have had. It largely depends upon whether a medicine is preventing a major adverse outcome or life-threatening condition versus an annoying or quality of life symptom.In Darren’s case, I would have told him to stop every new change that he has made to see if the culprit could be eliminated. I caution pt’s that creatine can be harmful depending upon your hydration status.
One thing I would point out that I find too commonly, is that patients don’t see vitamins or supplements as medicines. They don’t tell their provider about these things they use, which may affect the absorption or metabolism of prescribed medications. For me, a medicine is anything that is swallowed, inhaled, snorted, applied topically, injected, or inserted rectally to have an effect on the body. Yes, that includes food and liquid. Quite a few diseases could be prevented or cured if we would just stop poisoning ourselves with our dietary intake.
I agree with @kjayhawks2.0 that medicine is used too frequently because it is easier than changing your diet, exercise, or lifestyle, but changing those things and maintaining the change invariably will beat prescription medicine hands-down.
Have a great day!
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@kjayhawks2.0 meh. A great ENT doc saved my life earlier this week. Otherwise ole FJ would’ve not been back on this site due to a ruptured blood vessel in my face.
Plus, elites come here in droves to treat cancer, heart conditions, and other things. Concierge care here is second to none.
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@FarmerJayhawk scary, glad you got a great one!
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@approxinfinity thanks! Yeah he acted quickly once he figured out the issue and got me put back together. I’m definitely on the mend now!
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@FarmerJayhawk I'm glad you're ok!
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@nuleafjhawk thank you! Shoutout LMH Health
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Thankful!
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@FarmerJayhawk I don't live in Lawrence, but I did have the "opportunity" to visit LMH one Thanksgiving day many moons ago when a chunk of turkey got stuck in my too narrow esophagus. They were very impressive and I was thankful that they could resolve my problem.
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@FarmerJayhawk glad your doing better never been to LMH health before. I have never had an even remotely positive visit to any doctor in my life. My wife has had 3 knee surgeries in the past 16 months. They still cant figure it out after paying 10s of thousands of dollars to them. They’ll still hop in their BMWs and Benz’s drive to their multi million dollar estates like nothing happened. I come from an automotive/construction back ground. If some puts a new roof on your house and it still leaks, they are redoing it for free or going to court. Medical field should be similar IMO, screw it up repeatedly. It should be on your dime not mine. If other businesses were that way, they be closed after 6 months. Just my two cents on the matter I’ll add in my buddies in the military get ever procedure they can done outside of this country.
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@kjayhawks2.0 I don’t disagree with you. I am sorry that you have had such negative experiences in your lifetime. If we had universal healthcare like any other 1st world country, then you would not be spending thousands of dollars on surgeries that have not gone right. You would see more providers that go into medicine for the right reasons as the specialists would not be paid as well as they currently are. There are more issues at play in biological machines that have free will to make decisions than inanimate structures. Even then, in individuals that have done all the right things, outcomes may still be poor based upon factors outside of a patient’s control. Unless a provider is a sociopath, it bothers them when there are poor outcomes.
I am glad that @farmerjayhawk had a positive experience receiving necessary care in a timely manner with a positive outcome. That is the best scenario for all involved and when healthcare works as intended.
I often wonder if healthcare is getting worse because my idealism is transforming to realism or whether I am becoming grouchier in my old age or whether healthcare is circling the toilet declining like much of our way of life.
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@kjayhawks2.0 you’re free to take them to court with a malpractice suit. And that’s really unfortunate, I know some people have tough experiences with the medical system. I’ve almost always had really good experiences with the system, from my childhood doc at the tiny clinic where I grew up to KU student health to LMH. Shoot I even had a great surgeon in Salina when I had to have a major back operation for the injury that ended my football career. So maybe I’m just lucky, idk. Well if my choice was the VA or something else I’d also be very tempted to go elsewhere lol. The private system is much better
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@patoh3 said in Darryn Peterson:
One thing I would point out that I find too commonly, is that patients don’t see vitamins or supplements as medicines.
John Oliver's show last week highlighted the dangers of "gas station drugs"--all those "supplements" available in rack after rack promising more energy, better moods, pain-free joints, etc. Some have substances that have the same addictiveness, or more, than opioids (one woman spent a total upwards of 6 figures over several years before getting rehab). And no regulation because those substances have never been named on any federal drug schedules and the states are virtually powerless to address them. Many people assume they must be healthy or they couldn't be sold OTC, and they don't even tell their doctors about them.
Another issue is the packaging: Companies can just buy empty packing material and label, and put anything in that they want. Even dirt. Really scary,
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@kjayhawks2.0 Their goal is to keep making money, not healing people.
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@BShark said in Darryn Peterson:
@kjayhawks2.0 Their goal is to keep making money, not healing people.
Yep that what I tell people a multi billion dollar industry would collapse if people actually got healed.
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@FarmerJayhawk I’m sure there are several folks very happy with their care. I sometimes laugh how in the minority I am on certain subjects. I don’t know a ton of people, in fact outside of my Buckets family. I’m not sure if I know a person that doesn’t believe we need major changes in the healthcare industry.
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@kjayhawks2.0 I would move to Vancouver in a heartbeat if I could afford a house. It's beautiful and the winters (and summers) there are nicer than Kansas. Oh yeah, free education and Healthcare.
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@kjayhawks2.0 it took me a very long time to find a GP i trust. Had one that dumped me as a patient saying something about how it was an ethical conflict. I think because i went to an urgent care and got care that conflicted with his. I felt betrayed. My health at the time was poor, my mental health was also not in the greatest place, and instead of being the guy who quarterbacked my health management, he abandoned me because I wasnt easy. Really, awful and self serving move by that guy. He then left the practice a couple months later which left me without a GP, and health problems with which i was struggling.
Love my current GP. Hes my dude. Feel like hes looking out for me, listens to me, and i am in a better place because of him.
Trust your instinct, do you research ahead always, and dont settle for taking on a doctor for which reviews give you long pause, would be my advice.
After my experience with the first guy I found similar horror stories mixed in his reviews amidst a sea of reviews by low maintenance patients that he didnt abandon.
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@kjayhawks2.0 said in Darryn Peterson:
I’m not sure if I know a person that doesn’t believe we need major changes in the healthcare industry.
Being happy with my doctors has no effect on my fervent belief that the health-care industry needs major changes! And even though we are very lucky in the insurance we have in addition to Medicare, we also believe that the system is a disaster for most people and needs to be completely overhauled. There are way too many instances of insurance bean-counters making health care decisions.
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@mayjay For supplements and vitamins, I will look for USP designation on the bottle, which is a designation that means it has been vetted by a 3rd party lab confirming what it says on the label is true. There is also Consumer Lab for those that like a source similar to Consumer Reports. It is a pay site, but if you are heavy into using vitamins and supplements, I believe it is worth the cost. That site actually tests various supplements and vitamins to determine whether what it says on the bottle is what you are getting. It also shows which ones are more economical.
Some of the companies that tout the claim they are 3rd party tested can be sneaky in that if you do some digging, you find the overall company that owns the supplement company also owns the 3rd party lab.Quackwatch is an interesting site started by a physician covering a lot of alternative medicine I don’t agree with everything on it. I do believe there is benefit to some alternative medicine. Just because we don’t scientifically understand something does not mean that it has no merit. The placebo effect is real and impressive.
Kratom and K2 are both gas station legal addictive supplements. Kratom has opioid-like properties and K2 has marijuana-like properties. Both are dangerous IMO and should be removed from the market.
