@rockchalkjayhawk I think Elmarko staying makes a lot of sense as long as he is ok with staying for 2 years. Probably getting more NiL at KU than most places, gets to learn under a great coach, and has no current competition for starting PG next year (and if that last point changes, he could always transfer next year)
Posts made by MR11
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RE: Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster
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RE: Transfer Rumblings
Don’t mean to interrupt the shitting on kuballin, but was wondering if anyone had a program vibes update on if Kugel’s transfer will get worked out?
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RE: 2024 Portal Madness Thread
@wissox feel like there’s a small chance we take the wins leader back this year even without that happening
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RE: Transfer Rumblings
@approxinfinity seen around that griffen is rated as an above average defender. Can hope that going from Nate Oats to Bill improves that a bit more.
At least with having lineup depth, there is actually some motivation for the players to play D vs timbies getting to coast for 25 mins a game (Sorry for bringing up bad memories, just still can’t believe how much he played last year).
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RE: 2024 Recruiting
Another option could be he just got news that Elmarko is officially staying? Can seee him being skeptical he will see the floor much in that scenario.
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RE: 2024 Portal Madness Thread
Noticed Storr already transferred from St. Johns once. Is there a reason to think he wouldn’t have to sit out next year?
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RE: Transfer Rumblings
Vecenie is usually decent at ranking and think he does a transfer list with CJ Moore. It would be under a paywall though at the athletic though
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RE: Furphy
@BeddieKU23 was this a solid he is 100% staying in or just a likely to stay in? Not that is changes much either way and don’t love hearing that.
May be taking some copium saying this, but there is still a small chance he will still return until it is more widely reported and even then he could get bad feedback and change his mind (i.e. Kev last year where he declared not expecting to come back).
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RE: KJ Adams
@Texas-Hawk-10 Agreed, but idk if it is all that realistic for him to go from not shooting at all to being respectable. I feel like him improving his rebounding/defense and then putting high level shooters at the 2/3 will be the most likely scenario needed to get the most out of next years team.
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RE: Zeke Mayo
I think the hesitancy is valid as the staff supposedly did have concerns about his athleticism, but seems like not enough to be a deal breaker. I agree with you for the most part and I personally wouldn’t expect him to become a starter, but think he can be a solid backup/secondary PG and spell Harris some mins without the offense suffering. If the only thing he does for the team is push elmarko to be better, I would slot this as a solid win.
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RE: Transfer Rumblings
Agreed, we’ve been burned a lot on 5 star bigs that aren’t ready yet. Plus I am skeptical about any non Joel freshman big playing defense up to Bill’s expectations for a starter
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RE: 2024 Portal Madness Thread
Fair, he seems like a solid addition all in all maybe just not the perfect solution to the roster. Generally agree with what you said about throwing numbers at it, we probably need improvements to come from multiple areas and it might be asking too much to fix the roster with one player (and risk them not living up to expectations a la Timberlake).
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RE: 2024 Portal Madness Thread
@BeddieKU23 I think I am missing on what gets you excited about Kobe Johnson. He seems like a worse version of McCullar (not necessarily a bad thing tbf). He does shoot the 3 a little although not particularly well, so maybe that helps with offensive spacing for Hunter if played over KJ. Is that what you are imagining? Would also be a significant upgrade to our current bench, but I don’t see how him at the 3 solves any of the roster issues.
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RE: Bracket chat
@nuleafjhawk said in Bracket chat:
IMO there is nothing elite about this team. I’m leaving my crimson and blue goggles off for this one.
Before the injuries, this team was elite at passing and pretty good at 2 pt FG%. If they can get back to that and get just average from 3, there could be something brewing. I’m not expecting much, but prefer to have a little hope so I’m not rage watching the tournament.
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RE: Liam McNeeley
I will never really fault coach for not giving a player a guarantee they will start. Sell in a role for them, yes. Say we have a spot that is theirs for the taking, sure. But if a someone thinks that they don’t need to perform day in and out to get minutes, than they are going to cause problems for the program eventually.
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RE: Liam McNeeley decommits... Kansas on the radar!
Yeah if Furphy is leaving it will be better to have a replacement already lined up than not though! Even then, Furphy could probably slot in anywhere from 2-4 so no reason they can’t play together if he does stay. Might be likey Bill could convince him to stay committed in that case? Not like a Hunter/Udeh situation where both can’t be on the court.
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RE: Beat Silo Tech! Lets save this season
Yeah agreed, lose at Houston they finish 5th/6th in the B12 and dont make a 1 seed, might even be stuck at a 3 seed. KU is T-3rd/4th with a win though and with the imbalanced conference schedules, do you really think that hurts them that much? Not like Marquette is winning their conference.
I honestly think that H2H wins matter very little. Just in this specific scenario, an 8 loss Tenn vs 8 loss KU would be a very close comparison. Maybe them being conference champs with no bad losses matters more than KU’s H2H win plus better top end wins? I can’t recall any past seeding cases that would be like this where the committee has shown us what they would do here. Won’t be a slam dunk case though and think it could go either way. UNC at 7 losses is a similar situation where it would still be a close call, but there would still be a chance.
Marquette losing in the big east tournament would put them at 9 losses with their best win @ Illinois. KU’s best win in this scenario is @ Houston, miles better than anything Marquette has done. I just don’t see how this would be close enough of an evaluation for the H2H to come into play. Kolek is also out currently and if he doesn’t play in the Big East tournament, they are likely knocked for it by the committee.
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RE: Beat Silo Tech! Lets save this season
In a normal year I would agree with you all, but look at the teams that they would have to jump: Arizona (swept by the only other good P12 team), Marquette (just as many losses in a weaker conference, will likely also lose 1 more), Baylor/Iowa St (could pass them in the B12 tourney), UNC (if they lose @duke tonight they are at 7 losses in a weaker conference). Tennessee is the one team that I see as hard to pass and we would probably need to see them drop a couple. But if they lose vs Kentucky and then in the P12 tournament, we will have better wins than they do and a neutral H2H win that could put us over the top. Unless the committee is changing its approach, it has shown it doesn’t care about your rank in the predictive metrics and just uses that to judge your wins/losses.
Again, I said outside shot and I will be extremely surprised if this team even wins @ Houston let alone wins the B12 tournament on top of that. But I do think the chance is still alive.
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RE: Elmarko
A loss because he can be a good player, but specifically for next year’s KU team he wasn’t the best fit. It is always going to be hard for him to shine playing next to Harris/KJ because he wants driving lanes and isn’t an ideal floor spacer himself.
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RE: Beat Silo Tech! Lets save this season
@kjayhawks One thing to get excited for with the Houston game is that if we win it, I feel like we have an outside shot at the last #1 seed. Especially if the committee takes into account that Kev was out for a few losses. Winning out after that would likely put KU top 4 in q1 wins with the added bonus of 4-5 of those wins being against the top 5 of the NET.
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RE: Bringing out the Reds game chat
Turns out this team can be pretty good with a healthy McCulla’ and Timby knocking down 3’s. Just have to hope that keeps up (and hope Bill has a plan to adapt the defense for teams that can expose Hunter’s slow recovery on screens).
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RE: It will be pretty hard for me to be excited for next year's team
@patoh3 I assume the difference is that Hunter is at least going to see what his options are but is likely coming back because he doesn’t expect those options to beat returning.
If Elmarko stays and makes some strides, we will have someone who can break down the defense off the dribble and that is the main thing this team is currently missing.
McDowell has also shown promise and could be a solid rotation piece next year.
Only thing missing would be a starting level shooter and if that is his sole focus of the transfer portal, I would think Bill could land someone that can contribute. (No way we miss on this type of player two year in a row right??)
A 8 man rotation of Harris, Elmark, McDowell, Transfer shooter, Furphy, KJ, Hunter, and Flory seems pretty exciting to me. Now if Furphy isn’t back, I am less optimistic.
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RE: McCullar out vs Baylor
Agreed, tonight’s game will hopefully be the start of some consistency from Timbies. I would also like to see either McDowell or Elmarko really step up and try and take his starting spot over the next couple of games.
Since the B12 race is out of our hands, I think most people would like to see him sit and get as healthy as possible. Even if we drop 3/4 over the next couple of games, I see us as at worst a 3 seed and I would rather go into the NCAA tournament as that with Kev healthy than as a 1 seed with him still banged up.
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RE: Looking to next year
Yeah I’m sure there are teams that think that way and they aren’t wrong. Competing NBA teams will also be a little stingier as they need to maximize their cap space by drafting players that can contribute while on their cheaper rookie contract. All it takes is one team to be high on him though and I expect there are several since he is also a 6’-9" wing that can shoot the shit out of the ball and shows flashes of potential on defense. He becomes even average on defense and 32/32 teams in the NBA can fit that into their starting lineup.
Don’t get me wrong, I would be advising him to come back too cause I want another year. Maybe he even gets exposed a little with a heavier offensive load now that Kev is injured? I’m not getting my hopes up about it though and would hope Bill is recruiting like he won’t be here.
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RE: Looking to next year
I get the feeling like the staff likes McDowell a lot and have shown him enough trust that he isn’t going to want to go anywhere. Elmarko could go either way. I lean slightly that he would stay, but that would go against the trend of high ranked recruits sticking it out when they struggle in year 1. Maybe someone else has some knowledge about how he is being pushed, but that usually comes out more once the season is done.
If Furphy is back, that probably means he struggled down the stretch and I don’t like to think about what that means for our season.
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RE: "Never Again" - HCBS
@Zabudda I’d say Furph is a scorer, just not in isolation situations. But that seems to be the only thing missing from his offensive game.
Agreed that his defense has also been notably improving and he even notched 3 steals in the OU game. It seems like he can still get hunted a bit when his man has the ball, but he is not much of a liability in off ball situations.
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RE: 2023-2024 Statistics
Idk I’m not as down on this team as everyone else seems to be. They are kind of built for march with the only thing really missing is a good 6th man. It’d also be nice if we could get a little more scoring from our pg, but Dajuan has come up big for us before so not going to completely count him out. We go into the tourney completely healthy and I would pick KU as a good bet to get to the F4. And if timbies can tighten up his play a bit, a championship run is on the table.
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RE: Tomorrow Night , could be a dangerous time with K/State
The Monday turnaround is rough, but @KSU is probably the 3rd easiest game left on our schedule even if they do only live to win this game once in a blue moon. Definitely more worried about the Tech game next week.
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RE: The Furph
@jayhawks2010 devil’s advocate, he’s a 6’-9" wing who has averaged some 16/7 over the last few games at over 40% from 3 and has shown high level cutting ability. NBA loves wing players and there are prospects taken in the 1st round every year putting up less number than that.
I’m not saying he’ll go, but if he continues at his current pace there will be a team willing to draft him in the 1st round. I think there would be a decent chance he stays though because he has top 5 pick potential going in the draft next year.
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RE: KU vs No More Huggy Bear Game Chat
@Zabudda Furphy seems to be a better cutter than Gradey was so if teams guard him aggressively, he may be able to still exploit that. Even if not, that still would occupy the opponents best defender for the game and give everyone else a better matchup. That’s still good for a guy that was the 6/7th man a month ago.
Hunter is still over 40% from 3 from the season even with the 0-7 recently. Offense has looked good lately and I think we are looking for things to complain about if that is the concern right now.
Problem recently seems to be that the starters are playing so many minutes that the defensive intensity takes a hit. I worry about that less in march when the stakes are higher, but this team definitely plays down to their competition. That will make winning the b12 difficult.
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RE: Recruiting Notes
Assuming Peterson/Sanon stay in '25, are there any other SF/wings we are looking at for next year? Will be down Kevin for sure and Furph is looking like a good bet to go pro this year if he keeps putting up numbers like last night.
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RE: Team discussion after 10 games
@drgnslayr to go along with the low post scoring, feels like out offensive rebounding is down. Hunter is good at what he does so it is hard to complain, but it is a lot harder to get your own miss with his 4 ft jumpers than when you are shooting from under the basket.
Easiest thing for me that the team can improve is to lower their turnovers. I know a high TO rate is a symptom of high assists since we are passing the ball more, and I am fine with the TOs when trying to make a play, but we seem to still have a high number of sloppy ones. Juan even seems to be ending drives every so often with a prayer of a pass and I can’t ever remember him doing that in the past. Know that is pedantic but this team’s offensive strength is ball movement and being the best passing team is country is what they should hang their hat on.
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RE: Recruiting Notes
@BShark @Woodrow I don’t usually get too excited about reclassifications for 5 stars but seems like he would have to stay here for 2 years before being draft eligible?
If not, '25 may be better. I feel like 1 and done reclasses rarely work. Even the best 17 yr olds tend to struggle to have a significant impact their first year in college.
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RE: 🎟️ tickets 🎟️
Best deal on GA tickets is usually over winter break and the price often drops quite a bit as you get closer to game day. These used to drop to ~$20 a ticket but seems like $50-75 is a good deal the last couple of years
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RE: Now that regular Season is over / time to for some reflections.
To go one further, KU was also the better team in the OSU game. This team was a few plays away from being 11-1 and sitting one game away from playoff football. That hurts a bit but also goes to show this is one of the greatest program turnarounds in football history.
You raise a good point with UT/OU leaving there is going to be a power vacuum in football. If Lance hangs around long enough, we have as good of a chance as any to fill that void.
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RE: What to Expect at the Champions Classic?
@rockchalkjayhawk said in What to Expect at the Champions Classic?:
Another poster said something earlier that I was also wondering about…why were we doubling and trying to recover to the typically wide open Kentucky shooters? Odd coaching when Kentucky had no big of concern. That seemed the main problem to me for awhile.
I would guess the doubling was to keep Hunter out of foul trouble and Bill wasn’t as afraid of Kentucky’s 3 point shooting.
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RE: Tracking the Outgoing KU transfers
@BeddieKU23 more apt to say that about Udeh though. Zuby at least ended up with a coach comparable to Self. Not that rick is as good at developing big men, but he is still one of the best all time coaches.
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RE: Off-season starting lineup ever changing thread
Roster depth is not great but should be ok as long as the gaurds don’t get injured. Probably won’t have as good of practice bodies but who’s to say how much impact that has. Bill never plays more than 8-9 at the end of the season and we at least have that. Can’t say I’m not nervous with Kevin’s injury history though
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RE: 2024 Recruiting
Maybe but getting good recruits as freshmen is still a good tool and think the best approach is to balance that with the portal. Yes, there is a risk of them leaving, but feel like in general a freshman recruit has a better change of eventually breaking the starting lineup than if we have a 10th man who was a transfer. If they see the path for them, they will probably stick around a place like KU and if they don’t, then it is not a loss if they leave. Udeh didn’t leave until he was going to be burried on the bench behind Hunter and we aren’t going to get a transfer of the caliber every year
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RE: Arterio Morris
@RockkChalkk your edit is quite inflammatory, this obviously wouldn’t be the case with any other player. Morris has a history of domestic violance and only got a plea deal because the victim wasn’t going to testify. That case has plenty of evidence that he shows little respect from women and it is unlikely he would have gotten off if she did. Could he have changed? Yes, but in my eyes he needs to prove that and a new accusation popping up is not how you do that.
I would maybe be comfortable with him staying if there is some sort of combination of no evidence of any wrong doing, victim has a history of false accusations/proof she is looking for a payout, and his behavior that night by witnesses is impeccable. But knowing the case was already forwarded to prosecutors makes me think the likelyhood of all that minimal.
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RE: Arterio Morris
The KC star article mentioned him retweeting someone who was complaining about false accusations ruining lives. So the content wasn’t the worst, but not knowing when to lie low shows even more poor decision making.
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RE: Arterio Morris
Yeah truth is that we live in a world where Beard can choke his fiance and get a $3mil+ salary within 6 months. There no way that Self is losing his job for this even if we wanted him to
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RE: Arterio Morris
Hypothetically if Morris is cleared of all charges, would anyone be OK with him staying? Doubt we ever get that level of clarity with this situation, but even if we did I’m having a hard time coming up with a scenario where I wouldn’t want KU just to be done with him. This is your second chance, so it is your responsibility to make sure you dont put yourself in these situations. Plus him tweeting what he did after the news broke goes to show he doesn’t understand the severtity of the situation.
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RE: 2024 Recruiting
@jayballer67 I don’t recall ever seeing that, but even if he did we see people change their mind all the time with regards to returning. We know hunter is likley making around the NBA min so would be weird to see him take a pay cut to play in the g league or Europe. Maybe Bill doesn’t want him for 2 years? That seems unlikely but could just be Hunter wants to be one with college after 4 years? If that’s not the case though, hopefully Flory has considered and is ok with that or else there is a chance we might see him decommiting next spring.
Flory seem to be ranked highly just based on his athleticism though, so it would make sense for him to end up being a 2 year player so he can improve on passing/defense/shooting. Just hearing the comps to Diallo and Azubuike makes me think that he will have a hard time going in the lottery if he isn’t elite at one of those to complement his rim running ability.
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RE: Early Hearings TM
@kuballin10 yeah I think this is the least uncertainty I’ve had about a lineup entering the season for a long time. Usually there is at least some question around the 8/9th player.
Only thing this team is really weak on is a backup big but as mentioned, KJ can slide over there and would probably the best “backup 5” in the country if he was coming off the bench. If Braum doesn’t end up being servicable fill those minutes, I could see a world where Bill plays KJ 37+ a night.