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@BeddieKU23 this is Self’s biggest issue imo and why we struggle to get any depth. He picks his typical 7 players and rides with them regardless of what happens. We have seen it kill chemistry and development with this new era of college sports. I have said literally dozens of times thru out the season Kohl, Mbiya and Dawson should be playing more. I think without question had Kohl and Dawson gotten Mari and Elmarkos minutes several games they would have developed clearly being the better players of the bunch.
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@bskeet that’s not a bad take on perspective but I’m sure a lot of folks in Nebraska had a similar take in the early 2000s. Yes Coach Self was once great but that time has unfortunately passed. I’m very grateful for Selfs time here and what he has done. That being said I hope retires at this point, he is only damaging his legacy and this program. Kansas hadn’t had 3 11 or more loss seasons in a row under Brown, Williams or Self til the last 3 years. It’s literally the worst this program has been in my lifetime. If we do nothing to change it, it will continue. I will bet anyone any amount of money I have right now that if Coach is back next season we will once again lose 11 or more games, not win the conference and be sent home in the first weekend of the tournament. 6 of 7 years isn’t the exception, it is the rule at this point.
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@benshawks08 said in Money next year:
"His production (DP) was nothing compared to about 5-10 of the other top freshmen. And they didn't command the $3 million that DP did. That's a big concern.
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When I put on my tinfoil hat and get cynical (or is it pragmatic?), I convince myself that it's all about the B1G and the SEC, with east coast and Duke bias sprinkled in for ratings. That's where the money is. The engine is running and well-fueled (football) and good luck stopping or slowing it.
SWEET 16 since conference realignment:
2025: DUKE + 7 SEC and 4 B1G =12
2026: DUKE + 2 Big East teams. 6 B1G teams. 4 SEC teams = 13.Big12, allegedly the best conference all year gets 3 teams to the s16. Now maybe they all get to the Final Four, but right now, it doesn't look good.
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@BigBad I've always had a bit of an addictive personality. Dive headfirst into something (golf, bowling, whatever it may be), go like a bat out of hell for a while and then burn out.
KU basketball has been, by far, my longest and most intense addiction but I'm done. It's not worth the emotional investment to watch minor league ball as you say
America! Where you have the right to be wrong.
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@nuleafjhawk world cup is going to be here soon. We could talk about that?
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world cup!!!!
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@approxinfinity what's a world cup? A large drinking vessel?
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@nuleafjhawk seriously we should find some obscure sports that make no money and those who play it do it for the love and we should invest an unhealthy amount of our speculating on it. KU Baseball and volleyball are my nominations, but I could be convinced to go weirder and more obscure.
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Maybe we can start off not giving hundreds of millions to a football program to win 5 games a year or stop getting top 5 recruits for a WBB program that can’t even make the tournament?
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@kjayhawks2.0 as Approxinfinity said, In today's college game(s), it's all about the efficient allocation of resources!
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@approxinfinity that's a great idea!
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@approxinfinity How about: Cheese Rolling: Held annually in England, participants race down a steep hill chasing a round of Double Gloucester cheese, says Britannica.
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@nuleafjhawk I've seen that on Amazing Race but it was in Switzerland.
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@approxinfinity baseball and volleyball are not obscure. But Ultimate Frisbee!
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@kjayhawks2.0 said in Money next year:
Maybe we can start off not giving hundreds of millions to a football program to win 5 games a year or stop getting top 5 recruits for a WBB program that can’t even make the tournament?
Football is the AD’s big revenue raiser and if we want a ticket into the P2 it has to be a huge priority. I’ve waived the red flag about this for years but some were like meh whatever an additional $30m+ per year in tv money isn’t important. Well when we can’t afford an elite basketball hire or to buy out Lance if this year goes south those folks should just be happy we still get to play ISU every year.
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@FarmerJayhawk you are a 100% correct and we all know football is the big money maker. It’s just disappointing to see how bad the basketball program has struggled recently when we know how much is being funneled in the football program. We drove by the new part of the stadium when we were in town and it was great but it’s likely to be 1/4 next season while we win 3 or 4 games.
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@approxinfinity said in Money next year:
@nuleafjhawk seriously we should find some obscure sports that make no money and those who play it do it for the love and we should invest an unhealthy amount of our speculating on it. KU Baseball and volleyball are my nominations, but I could be convinced to go weirder and more obscure.
Obscure/Club:
KU Rowing has some recent success.
Would be attention-getting among the east-coast elite. Ultimate (just throwing that out there.)Not Obscure:
Baseball, Softball not so obscure, but would be interesting to see if money is all it takes to eat away at the SEC dominance... That said, you're competing with the deep pockets.or maybe Soccer?
Also don't sleep on Flag Football. That might be a fascinating place to invest given the clear issues with CTE and injuries... It will only get worse as guys get bigger and bulkier. There will be some who value their brains but still love the strategy and competition of Football. Flag is also great for men and women. You can also use the same facilities that have been built for football (get a bit more value out of that investment.)
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